...what's been said about John Kerry...

(My brother asked me to post some of things that have been said about John Kerry, to make it fair. On the Council, Dante posted the two main points that the Bush campaign focuses on already, so I just simply copied and pasted the exact exchance, with all the information in it.)

FarenHype 9-11

I am reposting this, because I met to put it in its own Blog... But I have decided I have taken all the Libral dreck I can stand. This came to me when I saw a bumper sticker that said: "Vote Bush is 04' Seig Heil!" So here I am after the debates... stareing at my bottle of Heintz Ketchup. Reflecting on what I've learned. So what did we learn you ask? Well all I can say about the St. Louis debate was... HE SAID IT!

President George W. Bush: "He's Got A Record. He's Been There For 20 Years. You Can Run, But You Can't Hide." (President George W. Bush, Second Presidential Debate, St. Louis, MO, 10/8/04)

Setting the Record Straight on the $87 Billion

In Response To Question 18 President Bush Criticized Kerry's Vote Against The $87 Billion. “He complains about the fact our troops don't have adequate equipment, yet he voted against the $87 billion supplemental I sent to the Congress and then issued one of the most amazing quotes in political history: "I actually did vote for $87 billion before I voted against it.” (President George W. Bush, Second Presidential Debate, St. Louis, MO, 10/8/04)



THE REAL RECORD: KERRY'S NINE POSITIONS ON THE $87 BILLION

1. Kerry Has Already Taken Eight Positions On The $87 Billion

2. Kerry Said It Would Be "Irresponsible" To Vote Against Funding Troops. (CBS' "Face the Nation," 9/14/03)

3. Kerry Claims "I Actually Did Vote For The $87 Billion Before I Voted Against It." (Sen. John Kerry, Speech In Huntington, WV, 3/16/04)

4. Kerry Later Said He Was "Proud" That He Voted Against $87 Billion In Funding For U.S. Soldiers. (John Kerry, Remarks at "Women's Voices: A Luncheon with John Kerry," Boston, MA, 7/12/04)

5. Kerry Then Said His Vote Against Body Armor And Supplies For Troops Was "Complicated." (MSNBC's "Imus in the Morning," 7/15/04)

6. Kerry Even Said His Vote For The War And Against Funding For Our Troops Was "Not A Flip-Flop." (CBS' "Evening News," 7/21/04)

7. Kerry Then Defended His Vote Against The $87 Billion By Saying President Bush "Didn't Have A Plan To Win The Peace, It Was Irresponsible To Give [President Bush] A Blank Check That Gave $20 Billion That Was Going To Go…To Halliburton And All These Other Companies." (Mike Allen And Lois Romano, "Closing Laps In Race To November," The Washington Post, 9/4/04)

8. Kerry Said He's "Glad" He Voted Against The Iraq Supplemental. (CBS' "The Late Show With David Letterman," 9/20/04)

9. Kerry Said His Vote Against The Iraq Supplemental "Was A Protest. Sometimes You Have To Stand Up And Be Counted." (ABC's "Good Morning America," 9/29/04)



Kerry's Flip-Flop On Labels

Tonight's Flip:

In Response To Question 12 John Kerry Said, "Number One, Don't Throw The Labels Around. Labels Don't Mean Anything." (Sen. John Kerry, Second Presidential Debate, St. Louis, MO, 10/8/04)

Yesterday's Flop:

John Kerry: "I'm A Liberal And Proud Of It." ("Gee, There Were So Many In 1988," St. Louis Post-Dispatch, 7/21/91)

Kerry Flip-Flops On The Patriot Act

Tonight's Flip:

In Response To Question One, John Kerry Said: "Now, The Three Things They Try To Say I've Changed Position On Are The Patriot Act. I Haven't. I Support It." (Sen. John Kerry, Second Presidential Debate, St. Louis, MO, 10/8/04)

Yesterday's Flops:

Kerry Called For Replacing PATRIOT With New Law. "So it is time to end the era of John Ashcroft. That starts with replacing the Patriot Act with a new law that protects our people and our liberties at the same time." (Sen. John Kerry, Remarks At Iowa State University, 12/1/03)

Kerry Attacks Patriot Act. "We are a nation of laws and liberties, not of a knock in the night. So it is time to end the era of John Ashcroft. That starts with replacing the Patriot Act with a new law that protects our people and our liberties at the same time. I've been a District Attorney and I know that what law enforcement needs are real tools not restrictions on American's basic rights." (Sen. John Kerry, Remarks At Iowa State University, 12/1/03)

Kerry Said It: "I've Never Changed My Mind About Iraq"

In Response To Question Two John Kerry Claimed He Has Not Changed His Mind On Iraq. Kerry: "I've never changed my mind about Iraq. I did believe Saddam Hussein was a threat. I always believed he was a threat – believed it in 1998, when Clinton was president. I wanted to give Clinton the power to use force if necessary." (Sen. John Kerry, Second Presidential Debate, St. Louis, MO, 10/8/04)

THE REAL RECORD: KERRY'S ELEVEN POSITIONS ON THE WAR IN IRAQ

1. October 2002: Kerry Voted For Use Of Force Resolution Against Iraq.
2. April 2003: Kerry Promised Not To Attack President When War Began, But Weeks Later, With Troops Just Miles From Baghdad, Kerry Broke His Pledge And Called For "Regime Change In The United States."
3. May 2003: In First Dem Debate, Kerry Strongly Supported President's Action In Iraq.
4. September 2003: Kerry Said Voting Against The $87 Billion Supplemental Would Be "Irresponsible."
5. October 2003: Kerry Voted Against The $87 Billion Supplemental Supporting Our Troops.
6. January 2004: After Voting For War And Trailing Candidate Howard Dean In The Democrat Primaries, Kerry Says He Is Anti-War Candidate.
7. August 2004: In Response To President's Question About How He Would Have Voted If He Knew Then What He Knows Now, Kerry Confirmed That He Would Still Have Voted For Use Of Force Resolution.
8. September 2004: Kerry: Iraq Is "The Wrong War In The Wrong Place At The Wrong Time."
9. September 2004: Kerry Says There Were No Circumstances Under Which We Should Have Gone To War, But He Was Still Right To Vote For It.
10. Kerry Said That The Removal Of Saddam Hussein Has Left America "Less Secure."
11. Kerry On Whether The Iraq War Was Worth It: "It Depends On The Outcome."

Kerry's Flip-Flop On Diplomacy

Tonight's Flip:

In Response To Question Four John Kerry Said, "But The President Just Arbitrarily Brought The Hammer Down And Said Nope, Sorry, Time For Diplomacy Is Over, We're Going." (Sen. John Kerry, Second Presidential Debate, St. Louis, MO, 10/8/04)

Yesterday's Flop:

March 2003: As War Began, Kerry Said Saddam Choose "To Make Military Force The Ultimate Weapons Inspections Enforcement Mechanism." "Senator John F. Kerry … had lambasted Bush's diplomatic efforts, despite voting last fall in support of a congressional resolution authorizing military action to disarm Iraq of any weapons of mass destruction. 'It appears that with the deadline for exile come and gone, Saddam Hussein has chosen to make military force the ultimate weapons inspections enforcement mechanism,' Kerry said." (Glen Johnson, "Critics Of Bush Voice Support For The Troops," The Boston Globe, 3/20/03)

Setting the Record Straight on Education

In Response To Question One John Kerry Said, "No Child Left Behind Act. I Voted For It. I Support It. I Support The Goals. But The President Has Under Funded It By $28 Billion." (Sen. John Kerry, Second Presidential Debate, St. Louis, MO, 10/8/04)

The Real Record:

President Bush Has Provided The Highest Education Funding Percentage Increase Since President Johnson And Increased Education Funding More In Four Years Than Bill Clinton Did In Eight Years. Elementary and Secondary education funding has increased $12.2 billion (49 percent) from $24.7 billion in 2001 to $36.9 billion in 2005. ("Not Since LBJ," Investor's Business Daily, 7/1/04; "2005 Budget Summary For Education," U.S. Department Of Education, 2/04)

"States Collectively Have $16.8 Billion In Unspent Federal Education Funds, All Of Which Has Been Available To Them For At Least A Year." (U.S. House Committee On Education And The Workforce, "New Government Data Confirms Federal Education Funding Is Increasing More Quickly Than States Can Spend It," Press Release, 6/29/2004)

Washington Post Editorial: "Funding For Education Has Increased Under The Bush Administration, And In Any Case Money Isn't The Main Obstacle To The Law's Success." (Editorial, "The Choice of Schooling," The Washington Post, 9/23/04)

Elementary And Secondary Education Funding Has Increased 130 Percent Since 2000. "Contrary to the repeated falsehoods by the teachers unions and left-wing activists, spending on primary and secondary education is soaring. In 2005, it will be up 130% — not a misprint — from President Clinton's last year in office." ("School Daze," Investors Business Daily, 9/23/04)

Kerry's Flip-Flop On Intelligence

Tonight's Flip:

In Response To Question Seven John Kerry Talked About The Importance Of Intelligence. Kerry: "Because the most important weapon in doing that is intelligence. You got to have the best intelligence in the world, and in order to have the best intelligence in the world, to know who the terrorists are, and where they are, and what they're plotting, you've got to have the best cooperation you've ever had in the world." (Sen. John Kerry, Second Presidential Debate, St. Louis, MO, 10/8/04)

Yesterday's Flop:

While On The Senate Intelligence Committee, Kerry Missed 76 Percent Of Public Hearings. During John Kerry's eight years of service on the Senate's Select Committee on Intelligence, there were 49 open, public hearings. Of these 49, John Kerry attended just 11 (22.4 percent). (Factcheck.org, "Bush Nails Kerry's Poor Attendance at Intelligence Committee Hearings," 8/17/04, Available At http://www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=241)

* In 1994, Not Long After First World Trade Center Attack, Kerry Proposed An Amendment To Cut Intelligence Budget By $6 Billion Across The Board Over Six Years.

Kerry's Flip-Flop On Medical Liability Reform

Tonight's Flip:

In Response To Question Nine John Kerry Claimed To Support Tort Reform. "John Edwards and I support tort reform. We both believe that as lawyers -- I'm a lawyer too – and I believe that we will be able to get a fix that has eluded everybody else because we know how to do it." (Sen. John Kerry, Second Presidential Debate, St. Louis, MO, 10/8/04)

Yesterday's Flop:

Kerry Opposed Or Voted To Block Medical Liability Reform At Least Ten Times.

Kerry Missed Both 2004 Votes On Medical Liability Reform.

* Medical Liability Reform Could Save Between $60 Billion And $108 Billion In Health Care Costs Annually, Making Health Insurance More Affordable For Millions. ("Confronting The New Health Care Crisis: Improving Health Care Quality And Lowering Costs By Fixing Our Medical Liability System," U.S. Department Of Health And Human Services, 7/25/02, http://www.aspe.hhs.gov/daltcp/reports/litrefm.htm)

Since 1989, Kerry Has Received $15,217,154 From Lawyers, Most Of Any Senator In That Time Period. (Center For Responsive Politics Website, www.opensecrets.org, Accessed 8/16/04)

Kerry's Flip-Flop On Middle Class Tax Cuts

Tonight's Flip:

Kerry Claims "I Am Not Going To Raise Taxes" On The Middle Class. QUESTION: "Thank you. Senator Kerry, would you be willing to look directly into the camera and using simple and unequivocal language, give the American people your solemn pledge not to sign any legislation that will increase the tax burden on families earning less than $200,000 a year during your first term?" SENATOR JOHN KERRY: "Absolutely. Yes. Right into the camera. Yes. I am not going to raise taxes." (Sen. John Kerry, Second Presidential Debate, St. Louis, MO, 10/8/04)

Yesterday's Flop:

In 1995, Kerry Voted For A Resolution That Said Middle Class Tax Cuts Were Not Wise. The sense of the Senate amendment, killed on a motion by Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT), said, "reducing the deficit should be one of the nation's highest priorities, and that a middle-class tax cut would undermine and be inconsistent with the goal of achieving a balanced budget." (H.J. Res. 1, CQ Vote #67: Motion Agreed To 66-32: R 49-3; D 17-29, 2/14/95, Kerry Voted Nay)

* Sen. Russ Feingold (D-WI), Sponsor Of Resolution, Said Senators Need "Will" To Resist Middle Class Tax Cut. (Sen. Russ Feingold, Congressional Record, 2/14/95, p. S2617)

Kerry Voted Against Amendment To FY 2004 Budget Resolution That Would Extend $1,000 Child Tax Credit Until 2013.

Kerry Sponsored And Voted For Motion To Kill Marriage Penalty Relief For Couples Earning Less Than $50,000 Per Year. "Kerry, D-Mass., motion to table (kill) the Gramm, R-Texas, amendment … The Gramm amendment would allow couples with combined incomes under $50,000 a year to claim an additional $3,300 income tax deduction, thus eliminating the so-called marriage penalty for those in that income bracket." Sen. Gramm's marriage penalty relief would have saved taxpayers $46 billion over 10 years. The amendment also would allowed self-employed individuals to deduct health insurance costs on their income taxes. (S. 1415, CQ Vote #154: Rejected 48-50: R 5-49; D 43-1, 6/10/98, Kerry Voted Yea)

Kerry Voted Three Times Against Repealing The 1993 Clinton Tax Increase On Social Security Benefits.

Kerry Voted Against The 2001 And 2003 Tax Cuts.

Kerry Voted Against Eliminating Clinton-Instituted 4.3-Cent Tax On Transportation Fuels.


posted by Dante Claracuzio at 10/9/2004 04:10:41 AM

14 Comments:
NixEclips said...
Will anyone make an issue out of the length of this post?

Nix says: Freedom!!!

10/9/2004 04:31:09 AM
Dante Claracuzio said...
probably but I wanted to get a point across.

10/9/2004 04:48:59 AM
Shark said...
That was informative and backed with sources that can be checked out for authinticity,rather than the "Bush Bashing"in other posts.

10/9/2004 06:30:53 AM
Phoenix said...
ok, dante... really long.. please summerize. I can't read this much politics....

10/9/2004 06:29:29 PM
NixEclips said...
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10/10/2004 05:28:46 AM
NixEclips said...
Ya gotta love the Phoenix. (Because I say so.)
But, come on. If we're talking about backing up statements with facts, read anything by M. Moore. Yeah, he must be a "liberal" nutcase. Isn't that whole "liberal" "right wing" "left wing" thing just name calling? Might as well say "red diaper doper babies" for f's sake. Even Al Franken used extensive research in his books. Screw all the talk and pictures.
I'm sick of Satan running this country and that's all I care about. I belong to no group. I want what is best for all of us. And we're all gonna die alone.

Nix says: Oooohhhh....Babble spews from the lips as liquid feces from the anus.

10/10/2004 05:39:06 AM
Steve aka Quill said...
Interesting post, Pasta-boy. But all that doesn't change the fact that we have currently in office a war-mongering liar with the brain capacity of a turnip. Kerry MAY in fact be flip-floppy on certain issues, but his changes of mind come when he needs to adapt his view in light of new evidence. He's not die-hard on backing up his mistakes and saying he made the right decision even though it was clearly wrong like Bush. You and the rest of the Bush supporters in the world can deny that all you want, it doesn't change it.

And I watched the St. Louis debate, too. Wanna know what I saw? I saw Bush lose the debate, because of his continued imcompetence.

10/10/2004 12:17:27 PM
Steve aka Quill said...
Just to clear the record, Jay (Dante); what valid information did you bring to the table other than that John Kerry is a man that adapts in light of new information? Oh wait, I forgot, that's called 'flip-flopping' in your eyes, ins't it? Tell me, do you believe that Bush did the right thing in all instances of this war? Do you even think he would admit it if he believed he made a mistake? I don't think he would. I think he'd defend this war if GOD himself came down and told him it was a bad call. And, being a republican, you would do the same, obviously. It's real easy for you to say this war is a good idea; you aren't the one having to go away to fight it. You aren't the one affected by it. All you see is numbers in the stock exchange.

I'd be willing to bet solid money on the fact that you'd change your mind if it was YOU going to war, or better yet, your kids, or your family. Especially if it's a war that is unnecessary. If Bush institutes a draft (and it's highly possible), and you get called to go to Iraq, I'll be right there to document and note YOUR 'flip-flopping' on that issue...

10/10/2004 04:19:02 PM
Dante Claracuzio said...
Ohhhhhh there is wayyyyyy more info that I have on Kerry then this. I could go on for hours about those "purple hearts" he stole! He supports comunism (bad idea!). My Ex-wife's family could tell you some of the horror stories liveing under Gorbachov on why comunism is a bad idea. Hell ask her grandfather about Stallen's execuetion squads! As far as the whole war thing. If I am drafted fine... I'll go fight! Its that simple. Dont ever seccond guess me on my loyalty to the USA. The reason I fear the flip-floping is the fact that I cannot vote for someone who changes just because its popular. For the record, Bush did admit that their were no WMD's he can admit when he is wrong. It was the right choice to topple Sadam. As I said before would you rather he be back in power? Harboring Terrorist, killing his people, and shooting children? Hell while were at it why not put the Soviet union back in power, let Pole Pot out of prison along with his buddy Slobadon Melosavitch.

10/11/2004 12:27:00 AM
Dante Claracuzio said...
I just thout of something... someone will call BS on the purple hearts thing. So you can find that all at www.swiftboatsvetsforthetruth.org I love the fact that you can't find anything on Kerry except for some stuff I wrote for the young republicans 2 months back look at this:

Unlike McCain, Bush, and Gore; Kerry has adamantly refused to authorize the release of his military records. Most think it's because of his phony battle medals. I think the real reason is below. He was not granted an Honorable Discharge until March 2001, almost 30 years after his ostensible service term had ended! This is very much out of the ordinary, and highly suspect.

There are 5 classes of Discharge: Honorable, General, Other Than Honorable, Bad Conduct, and Dishonorable.
My guess is that he was Discharged in the '70s, but not Honorably. He appealed this sometime while Clinton was doing trouser-tricks in the Oval Office. Political pressure was applied, and the Honorable Discharge was then granted.

His file is probably rife with reports of this, submissions and hearings on the appeal, reports of his "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy, along with protests that were filed with respect to his alleged valor under fire.

On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry signed a 6 year enlistment contract with the Navy (plus a 6-month extension during wartime).

On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry also signed an Officer Candidate contract for 6 years -- 5 years of ACTIVE duty & ACTIVE Naval Reserves, and 1 year of inactive standby reserves (See items #4 & 5).

Because John Kerry was discharged from TOTAL ACTIVE DUTY of only 3 years and 18 days on 3 Jan. 1970, he was then required to attend 48 drills per year, and not more than 17 days active duty for training. Kerry was also
subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Additionally, Kerry, as a commissioned officer, was prohibited from making adverse statements against his chain of command or statements against his country, especially during time of war.

It is also interesting to note that Kerry did not obtain an honorable discharge until Mar. 12, 2001 even though his service obligation should have ended July 1, 1972.

Lt. John Kerry's letter of 21 Nov. 1969 asking for an early release from active US Navy duty falsely states "My current regular period of obligated service would be completed in December of this year."

On Jan. 3, 1970 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to the Naval Reserve Manpower Center in Bainridge, Maryland.

Where are Kerry's Performance Records for 2 years of obligated Ready Reserve, the 48 drills per year required and his 17 days of active duty per year training while Kerry was in the Ready Reserves? Have these records been released?

Has anyone ever talked to Kerry's Commanding Officer at the Naval Reserve Center where Kerry drilled?

On 1 July 1972 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to Standby Reserve - Inactive.

On 16 February 1978 Lt. John Kerry was discharged from US Naval Reserve.

Below are some of the crimes Lt. Kerry USNR committed as a Ready Reservist, while he was acting as a leader of Vietnam Veterans Against the War:

1. Lt. Kerry attended many rallies where the Vietcong flag was displayed while our flag was desecrated, defiled, and mocked, thereby giving aid and comfort to the enemy.
2. Lt. Kerry was involved in a meeting that voted on assassinating members of the US Senate.
3. Lt. Kerry lied under oath against fellow soldiers before the US Senate about crimes committed in Vietnam.
4. Lt. Kerry professed to being a war criminal on national television, and condemned the military and the USA.5. Lt. Kerry met with NVA and Vietcong communist leaders in Paris, in direct violation of the UCMJ and the U.S. Constitution.

Lt. Kerry by his own words & actions violated the UCMJ and the US Code while serving as a Navy officer. Lt. Kerry stands in violation of Article 3, Section 3 of the US Constitution. Lt. Kerry's 1970 meeting with NVA Communists in Paris is in direct violation of the UCMJ's Article 104 part 904, and US Code 18 U. S. C. 953. That meeting, and Kerry's subsequent support of the communists while leading mass protests against our military in the year that followed, also place him in direct violation of our Constitution's Article 3, Section 3, which defines
treason as "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy in time of warfare.

The Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3, states, "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-president, having previously taken an oath to support the Constitution of the United States, [who has] engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to
the enemies thereof.""

10/11/2004 12:34:57 AM
Steve aka Quill said...
Oh that's right...now you start in bashing Kerry's service record. Let me tell you something, Jason - John Kerry actually WENT to war. Bush got out of it. Kerry defended the USA in Vietnam, and then came back to the US afterwards and slandered the war; and that was right of him to do, because the entire Vietnam war was BULLSHIT. We shouldn't have been over there. He, like Shark, went because he had signed up. Bush didn't do that. Bush wouldn't go to war if you paid him. Bush has led a silver-spoon life.

I never said Saddam should be back in power; that's you putting words in my mouth. Kerry never said that either; again, you (and Bush) putting words in his mouth. I suggest you get some better arguments.

10/11/2004 07:59:44 AM
The Voice said...
Where the hell do you boys FIND all this junk anyway? I'm pretty sure that all of this information is available to the general public--but where do you find the time to look it all up? I mean, really, the posts are SOOOOO long in the first place, but now the comments are getting just as long...

And I'm on Quill's side on the military record issue...it looks better to be running for Pres with an honorable discharge, but who cares if it was "honorable" or "less than honorable?" He went to war for his country, and that's more than we can say for the guy who sent our friends and family to war.

10/11/2004 10:27:01 PM
Shark said...
NEVER AGAIN COMPARE THAT DIRTY MOTHERFUCKER TO ME AGAIN!!!
I joined the Army becuase it was the right thing to do out of love for my country!And while I do not agree with everything that has happened here I still support the Commander in Cheif in his decision to engage the insurrgents and dictators in Iraq!My only problem with the war now is that it should have been finished off the first time we were here!

10/12/2004 07:09:27 AM
Steve aka Quill said...
BTW...Shark, check my 'truth about Bush' post for a slew of facts you can check for authenticity.

10/14/2004 12:12:13 PM